How To Weather Seal Camera
If you employ a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather condition-sealed body...
If you use a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather-sealed torso...
If you use a non-atmospheric condition-sealed lens on a weather-sealed body in choppy weather, are you putting the trunk at chance - or just the lens?
Once the lens stops working you tin can start worrying about the torso.
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Both, because the mount isn't sealed.
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Re: If y'all apply a not-atmospheric condition-sealed lens on a weather-sealed trunk...
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A half sealed system is better than a totally unsealed ane, but the combination is certainly not sealed. If you use it in poor atmospheric condition you lot volition risk the body.
Not all lenses volition necessarily suffer from getting water inside if they are dried out carefully reasonably quickly the impairment to a fully manual lens tin exist minimal, but digital cameras volition typically suffer significantly, even if the h2o has entered through the lens.
It's definitely best to treat an incompletely sealed system as if it wasn't sealed at all.
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Mark_A • Forum Pro • Posts: sixteen,490
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Newbie6824 wrote:
If you lot use a non-conditions-sealed lens on a weather condition-sealed torso in inclement atmospheric condition, are you putting the body at risk - or just the lens?
If water could get into the lens so it could become to the sensor, and so you are risking both the lens and the trunk.
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tedolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 28,740
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Almost photographers for near of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If yous are reasonable careful, east.thou. utilize a hat with a big brim, put the photographic camera under your jacket when not in utilise, cameras can handle mildly inclement weather without much trouble. I take never had a camera neglect due to water intrusion. Had plenty of lenses fog on the outside but that is it.
As well, who takes pictures in a downpour anyhow?
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Newbie6824 wrote:
If you use a not-weather condition-sealed lens on a weather-sealed body in choppy atmospheric condition, are y'all putting the body at take chances - or but the lens?
As everyone else has said, both are at risk - but the real question is "how much risk?" I use non-sealed lenses on sealed bodies; in moderately bad weather condition I acquit the camera lens-downwardly then that while the back of the camera gets wet the lens doesn't. And so while at that place'due south some risk it's less than non having a sealed trunk.
Just take care any you used.
Note, too, that weather sealing doesn't protect against moist air. The seals keep liquid water out but not vapour.
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Re: A word about weather-sealing...
tedolf wrote:
Most photographers for nearly of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If yous are reasonable careful, e.g. use a hat with a large brim, put the camera under your jacket when not in employ, cameras can handle mildly inclement weather without much problem. I take never had a camera neglect due to water intrusion. Had enough of lenses fog on the outside just that is it.
Too, who takes pictures in a downpour anyway?
TEdolph
Unless I once more take the equivalent of my Nikonos, I would exist reluctant to expose any camera to whatever pelting or even wet, (which could be worse).
I used to enjoy taking my Nikonos into the kitchen when a "group" of people were in that location and "Launder" it in the sink.
I was amused when everyone would grasp as I expressively held it under a stream of water.
I was one time asked to be a permanent photographer at a (motorcar) race-track. I showed up with my regular camera and as I approached the rail a group of (racing) cars roared through and a cloud of dust (and "tire" grit) bellowed up.
I immediately tucked my photographic camera nether my shirt and ran dorsum to the motorcar. Decided immediately that I could/would but shoot it w/ my Nikonos / 80mm. (But didnt considering didnt feel there was enough money to justify the time.)
Another guy later did it westward/ make-new Canon F1 and his (brand-new) camera failed within 6 months.
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tedolf wrote:
Most photographers for nigh of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If yous are reasonable careful, eastward.g. use a chapeau with a large brim, put the photographic camera nether your jacket when not in use, cameras can handle mildly choppy weather without much problem. I have never had a camera fail due to water intrusion. Had enough of lenses fog on the outside just that is it.
Besides, who takes pictures in a downpour anyway?
TEdolph
Indeed digital photographic camera is more resilience than nosotros usually expect.
I had the 1st mirrorless camera submergred into a river 5+ years ago. It was a non WR combo, came out like a h2o tank. After stale for 3 days it could exist used once again. Information technology was sent to service center and received its death certificate (for insurance) considering commercially not viable to repair (accept to replace the unabridged oxidized electronic content).
In reality information technology is nonetheless able to shoot generally normal (occasional crashes need to remove battery) until now. The lens concerned is still one of my major lenses present.
I now put WR be the to the lowest degree requirement on my list. Of course all usual precaution as you brash should be taken under severe conditions.
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Marker B. • Forum Pro • Posts: 29,011
Re: If yous use a non-conditions-sealed lens on a conditions-sealed trunk...
Newbie6824 wrote:
If yous use a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather-sealed body in inclement atmospheric condition, are you lot putting the body at adventure - or merely the lens?
The atmospheric condition sealing of the arrangement is only every bit skillful every bit the weakest point. And so, you've introduced the greatest chance of weather condition intrusion at the trunk-lens interface. They're both at risk.
Leswick 2 • Senior Member • Posts: i,946
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Mark B. wrote:
Newbie6824 wrote:
If yous use a not-weather-sealed lens on a weather condition-sealed body in inclement atmospheric condition, are you putting the body at take a chance - or only the lens?
Offset, don't become likewise comfy with the fact that your camera is weather sealed. The betoken I'1000 making that you could take some surprises coming. I've seen (repeatedly) that the photographic camera manuf pointed fingers at the photographer: abuse was the consequence of the action.
Best matter is to keep the camera from straight moisture exposure. OK, folks will say, oh I had waves splashing over the camera, bla bla bla. Possibly so for 22 times, but on the 23rd fourth dimension the camera was toast.....an expensive paper weight.
Consequently, whatever it is, it's not waterproofed (Nikonos) and any risks y'all take is on you lot. As to your Q, I have several primes (30-45yrs old) that are not sealed, and along with the sealed ones....I just get in a frame of mind not to risk it to moisture....my conditioning is kind of retro or film related.
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Newbie6824 wrote:
If y'all use a non-atmospheric condition-sealed lens on a weather condition-sealed body in inclement weather, are y'all putting the body at gamble - or just the lens?
That will be a judgement call you'll need to make. Every shooting situations is different, and non all crave weather sealing. Your tolerance for risk volition also be a huge factor.
I have a beater camera, that has no weather sealing, and I put it to some muddied situations. And to my surprise it still functions.
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Mark B. • Forum Pro • Posts: 29,011
Re: If you employ a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather-sealed torso...
Leswick Two wrote:
Mark B. wrote:
Newbie6824 wrote:
If you use a non-weather-sealed lens on a atmospheric condition-sealed body in inclement atmospheric condition, are you putting the body at hazard - or just the lens?
Commencement, don't get too comfortable with the fact that your camera is weather condition sealed. The point I'm making that you could have some surprises coming. I've seen (repeatedly) that the camera manuf pointed fingers at the photographer: corruption was the consequence of the action.
Best thing is to keep the photographic camera from directly moisture exposure. OK, folks volition say, oh I had waves splashing over the photographic camera, bla bla bla. Mayhap so for 22 times, but on the 23rd fourth dimension the camera was toast.....an expensive paper weight.
Consequently, whatsoever it is, it's not waterproofed (Nikonos) and any risks you take is on you. As to your Q, I take several primes (xxx-45yrs old) that are not sealed, and along with the sealed ones....I just get in a frame of listen not to risk information technology to moisture....my workout is kind of retro or film related.
Not certain why you replied to me, lol. I correctly pointed out to the OP that the weather-sealing is comprised by using a not-conditions sealed lens.
Re: If you lot use a non-weather condition-sealed lens on a conditions-sealed body...
Mark B. wrote:
Leswick II wrote:
Mark B. wrote:
Newbie6824 wrote:
If you use a not-weather-sealed lens on a weather condition-sealed body in inclement atmospheric condition, are you lot putting the body at risk - or just the lens?
First, don't get as well comfy with the fact that your photographic camera is weather sealed. The betoken I'm making that you could take some surprises coming. I've seen (repeatedly) that the camera manuf pointed fingers at the lensman: abuse was the consequence of the activity.
Best thing is to keep the photographic camera from direct moisture exposure. OK, folks will say, oh I had waves splashing over the camera, bla bla bla. Perhaps so for 22 times, but on the 23rd time the camera was toast.....an expensive newspaper weight.
Consequently, whatever information technology is, information technology's not waterproofed (Nikonos) and any risks you take is on you. Every bit to your Q, I take several primes (30-45yrs old) that are not sealed, and along with the sealed ones....I simply make it a frame of heed not to risk information technology to wet....my conditioning is kind of retro or film related.
Not sure why you replied to me, lol. I correctly pointed out to the OP that the weather-sealing is comprised by using a non-weather sealed lens.
Near certainly just considering your's was the nearly recent post. It would have been much easier than scrolling dorsum to the tiptop of the thread to access a 'answer to thread' pick.
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Re: A word about weather-sealing...
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tedolf wrote:
Well-nigh photographers for near of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If you are reasonable careful, due east.thousand. use a hat with a big brim, put the camera under your jacket when not in utilize, cameras tin handle mildly inclement conditions without much trouble. I have never had a camera fail due to water intrusion. Had plenty of lenses fog on the outside but that is it.
There is much truth to that.
Besides, who takes pictures in a downpour anyhow?
I'1000 ever surprised by the opinionated with experience that can't think outside of their own practices.
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Leswick II • Senior Member • Posts: i,946
Re: If yous utilise a non-weather-sealed lens on a atmospheric condition-sealed body...
I meant to reply to OP.
Marker B. • Forum Pro • Posts: 29,011
Re: If y'all utilize a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather-sealed trunk...
petrochemist wrote:
Mark B. wrote:
Leswick II wrote:
Mark B. wrote:
Newbie6824 wrote:
If you use a non-weather-sealed lens on a weather-sealed body in inclement conditions, are yous putting the body at hazard - or simply the lens?
Commencement, don't get too comfy with the fact that your camera is weather sealed. The bespeak I'm making that yous could accept some surprises coming. I've seen (repeatedly) that the camera manuf pointed fingers at the lensman: abuse was the consequence of the activeness.
Best thing is to proceed the photographic camera from direct wet exposure. OK, folks will say, oh I had waves splashing over the photographic camera, bla bla bla. Perhaps so for 22 times, only on the 23rd time the camera was toast.....an expensive newspaper weight.
Consequently, whatever it is, it's not waterproofed (Nikonos) and whatsoever risks y'all take is on you. As to your Q, I have several primes (30-45yrs old) that are not sealed, and along with the sealed ones....I just make it a frame of mind non to take chances it to moisture....my conditioning is kind of retro or motion picture related.
Not certain why you replied to me, lol. I correctly pointed out to the OP that the weather condition-sealing is comprised by using a not-weather sealed lens.
Almost certainly just considering your's was the most contempo mail service. It would have been much easier than scrolling dorsum to the top of the thread to access a 'reply to thread' option.
I simply click on the OP and reply to that. Piece of cake.
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Bob Tullis wrote:
tedolf wrote:
Most photographers for most of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If you are reasonable careful, e.g. use a hat with a large brim, put the photographic camera under your jacket when not in use, cameras can handle mildly inclement weather without much trouble. I have never had a camera neglect due to water intrusion. Had plenty of lenses fog on the exterior just that is it.
There is much truth to that.
Besides, who takes pictures in a downpour anyhow?
I'm always surprised by the opinionated with experience that can't think exterior of their ain practices.
I consider it a virtue.
Hi Bob!
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tedolf wrote:
Bob Tullis wrote:
tedolf wrote:
Most photographers for nearly of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If y'all are reasonable careful, eastward.one thousand. use a hat with a large brim, put the photographic camera under your jacket when not in use, cameras tin handle mildly choppy weather condition without much problem. I take never had a camera neglect due to water intrusion. Had plenty of lenses fog on the outside but that is it.
In that location is much truth to that.
Besides, who takes pictures in a downpour anyway?
I'm always surprised by the opinionated with feel that can't recall exterior of their own practices.
I consider information technology a virtue.
That's unfortunate, but information technology does explain a lot.
Hullo Bob!
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Re: A discussion about weather-sealing...
Bob Tullis wrote:
tedolf wrote:
Bob Tullis wrote:
tedolf wrote:
Most photographers for near of photographic history used unsealed cameras and unsealed lenses. If you are reasonable conscientious, due east.g. use a chapeau with a large skirt, put the photographic camera nether your jacket when not in apply, cameras can handle mildly choppy weather without much problem. I take never had a photographic camera fail due to water intrusion. Had plenty of lenses fog on the outside merely that is it.
There is much truth to that.
Besides, who takes pictures in a downpour anyway?
I'm always surprised by the opinionated with experience that tin can't think outside of their own practices.
I consider it a virtue.
That's unfortunate, merely it does explicate a lot.
His female parent (deliberately) dropping him on his head (twice) explains the balance ...
Howdy Bob!
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